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  • Justice Katju Critiques Moeed Pirzada’s Views on Pakistani Diaspora’s Role in Nation Building

    Justice Katju Critiques Moeed Pirzada’s Views on Pakistani Diaspora’s Role in Nation Building

    Moeed Pirzada’s superficial understanding

    By Justice Katju

    Moeed Pirzada is an upright Pakistani journalist, whom I respect, as he is bravely fighting for restoration of democracy in Pakistan.

    However, with respect, his recent video talk reveals his inanity and superficial understanding.

     Most of his talk is a rambling discourse on Indian history, which everyone is conversant with.

    Moeed does not mention anything about what I told him in his interview of me some time back.

    Towards the end of his talk Moeed refers to the Pakistani diaspora, and says that they are more knowledgeable than local Pakistanis, and should play a role in the political direction in Pakistan.

    I too go often to USA and Canada and have interacted with many Pakistanis settled there. I found them to be fine people, and it is true that most of them are highly qualified as scientists, engineers, doctors, etc. 

    But to think that they can play a role in Pakistan is a facetious idea. They are interested in making money, and leading a comfortable life in North America.

    Yes, many of them contribute some money to schools, hospitals, etc in Pakistan, and many have held demonstrations demanding restoration of democracy in Pakistan.

    But that is about the end of their patriotism. To expect them to give up their comforts is asking too much.

    Contrast this to what happened after the Chinese Revolution of 1949.  Hundreds of Chinese scientists returned to China e.g. Deng Jiaxian,  who had received his Ph.D. in nuclear physics from a top American University,  and returned to China in 1950, and later became a major architect of the Chinese nuclear weapons program.

    These scientists and students were welcomed back in China with open arms by the Chinese Govt, and many of the returnees took key positions in the Chinese research, development, and educational systems. The cutting edge science and technology they brought back gave the Chinese leaders growing confidence that China could indeed launch its modernization drive. It may also have encouraged the Chinese leadership to pursue increasing independence from the Soviet Union.

    Altogether, from 1949 to 1956, 129 of these returned students went to work in the elite Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS), and 109 of them achieved the senior status of associate research fellow (equivalent to associate professor), accounting for one quarter of all such positions in the academy. Qian Xuesen became the director of the Institute of Mechanics of the academy and later organized the Chinese rocket and missile programs. In fact, the Chinese government decided to launch its missile program in large part due to the return of Qian. Both individually and as a group, it is difficult to overestimate the importance of these returned students and scientists to the Chinese nuclear weapons and space programs. Among the twenty‐three Chinese scientists who were given national medals in 1999 for their contributions to the nuclear, missile, and satellite projects, nine had returned to China between 1949 and 1957.

    These scientists who returned to China after 1949 received only a tiny fraction of the salaries and other benefits which they were getting in America, yet a burning sense of patriotism and a desire to build China as a modern industrial country made them return to their homeland, giving up many of their comforts in America.

    Will any of the Pakistani diaspora do that ? I doubt it. They may contribute to some charity in Pakistan, but that is about all. They will certainly not permanently return to Pakistan.

    Moeed needs to reconsider his views

  • Jinnah’s death anniversary and Moeed Pirzada

    Jinnah’s death anniversary and Moeed Pirzada

    The 75th death anniversary of Mohammad Ali Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan, was observed on 11th September 2023.

    On this occasion Moeed Pirzada, the eminent Pakistani journalist, has posted a vlog, given below

    I respect Moeed who is bravely opposing the reign of terror unleashed in Pakistan by its army. However I regret that in his vlog he has totally distorted the truth.

    Moeed says that Jinnah was an advocate of Constitutionalism and the rule of law, and he deplores the fact that these have broken down today in Pakistan, which is directly contrary to Jinnah’s vision.

    What he overlooks is that Jinnah’s relentless advocacy of the bogus two nation theory which led to creation of Pakistan as an Islamic state, inevitably led to today’s situation in Pakistan and the destruction of the rule of law..

    Ali Mohammad Jinnah's death anniversary

    No doubt at one time Jinnah opposed separate electorates for Hindus and Muslims, and was called the ‘Ambassador of Hindu unity’. But that was at the early stage of his political career. Later, particularly after the Lahore Resolution of 1940 he relentlessly and fanatically demanded partition of India on communal lines, and he went all over India preaching this.

    I have mentioned in several articles that in fact Partition of India in 1947 was a British swindle, and was the culmination of the British policy of divide and rule.

    https://www.nation.com.pk/02-Mar-2013/the-truth-about-pakistan

    https://indicanews.com/2023/06/13/justice-markandey-katju-on-dr-pervez-hoodbhoys-superficial-understanding/

    https://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/pande.htm

     It was the British who were responsible for the Partition of India, with Jinnah as their main agent (though ultimately the Congress Party also acquiesed), and the purpose was to prevent India from emerging as a modern industrial giant ( as China has become ) and becoming a big rival to Western industry. I have explained this in detail in this interview I gave to Moeed recently

    The same Jinnah who was secular and the ‘Ambassador of Hindu-Muslim Unity’ in the 1920s later became highly communal, and the main protagonist of the fraudulent two nation theory in the late 1930s. 

    Obviously he did this to satisfy his ambition to become the ‘Quaid-e-Azam’, regardless of the suffering his actions caused to both Hindus and Muslims. His call for Direct Action Day resulted in the terrible Calcutta killings in 1946. And, of course, the Partition resulted in the deaths of over 500,000 people, Hindu and Muslim, and the uprooting of millions from their native places. Did this cause any grief to Jinnah? Not at all. As long as his ambition was satisfied he was not bothered about the horrible miseries he had caused.

    If one reads Jinnah’s speeches and his letters ( they have all been published) one will see that from the late 1930s onwards he relentlessly preached the 2 nation theory, that Hindus and Muslims are two separate nations, and therefore cannot co-exist together. This was of course humbug, and surely Jinnah knew that, since he had lived in Bombay for long, and must have interacted as a lawyer and otherwise with a lot of Hindus. 

    Moeed has harped on Jinnah being a Constitutional expert and upholder of the rule of law. What he omits to state is that creation of Pakistan as an Islamic state, which Jinnah relentlessly advocated, effectively destroyed constitutionalism and the rule of law.

    This is because the Indian subcontinent has such tremendous diversity that a theocratic state in it simply cannot be stable, prosperous or governed by the rule of law.

    Even if one creates an Islamic state, the question immediately arises what kind of Islam, Sunni or Shia, Deobandi or Barelvi, Wahabi, Salafi or Sufi ? Fights often occur between these denominations in Pakistan e.g. over the issue whether dargahs are islamic or unislamic. Mobs of religious extremists have often attacked minorities over concocted blasphemy allegations with impunity

    https://thewire.in/communalism/pakistan-mobs-torch-churches-houses-of-christians-over-blasphemy-allegations

    Religious bigots like the Tehreek-e-Labaik often resort to extra legal measures which create havoc.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehreek-e-Labbaik_Pakistan

     And of course Ahmadis have been thrown to the wolves.

    The Barbaric Persecution of Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Moeed has often said that the British Cabinet Mission proposal, which Jinnah’s Muslim League supported but Congress opposed, could have avoided Partition.

    In reply it must be said firstly that the Cabinet Mission was just a ploy, since the British were determined to partition India before they left ( for the reason abovementioned ). In fact this was a typical British technique before they left a country e.g. partitioning Ireland, Palestine, Cyprus, etc.

    Secondly, the proposal to give only defence, foreign affairs, currency and communications to the Central Govt meant that India would remain weak, and continue to be dominated indirectly by foreign powers.

    A strong Central Govt led by modern minded leaders determined to rapidly industrialise and modernise the country is a sine qua non for the country’s progress.

    I suspect that Moeed has in mind that one day he would like to return to Pakistan ( he presently lives in USA and dare not return immediately as he is persona non grata with the present Pakistan Establishment due to his strong support for Imran Khan ), but he knows that even if things change later and he returns he may be charged under section 123A Pakistan Penal Code which carries a sentence of upto 10 years jail for speaking against Partition.

    So to avoid unpleasant consequences he must support the ‘Baba-e-Quom’, who caused so much misery to tens of millions

  • Moeed Pirzada’s inanity and mendacity

    Moeed Pirzada’s inanity and mendacity

    Recently I posted this tweet :

    ” I will keep calling Jinnah a rascal as he was a shameless British agent, mainly responsible for the British swindle called Partition on the basis of the bogus two nation theory, which caused unspeakable horrors and sufferings to millions. If most Pakistanis dont realise the truth, that’s their problem ”.

    In response, the Pakistani journalist Moeed Pirzada tweeted :

    ” Who rejected Cabinet Mission Plan that had offered a loose federal framework for a United India? With Defence, Foreign Affairs, Currency & Communication with Delhi as Center & Education, Policing, Fisheries, local taxes etc with groups of provinces? Who demanded division of Punjab & Bengal on religious lines?

    British India as a legal & political unit was only 90 years old (1858-1947) whereas Punjab & Bengal existed with their ethnic identities & borders for hundreds of years! Please think & reflect before writing opinions that are called “figments of imagination” I hold Moeed in respect, as he has been bravely fighting against the reign of terror unleashed by the Pakistan Establishment. His problem, however ( like the problem of many Pakistanis ) is that he dare not speak against the Partition of India, as that carries a sentence of upto 10 years imprisonment, vide section 123A Pakistan Penal Code. So Moeed dare not speak the truth that Partition of India in 1947 was a British swindle based on the bogus two nation theory ( that Hindus and Muslims are two separate nations ), that in fact we are one nation, sharing the same culture, and were one since Mughal times. The purpose of Partition was that united India should not emerge as a modern industrial giant, like another China, and thus become a big rival to Western industry.

    https://indicanews.com/2023/06/13/justice-markandey-katju-on-dr-pervez-hoodbhoys-superficial-understanding/
    https://www.nation.com.pk/02-Mar-2013/the-truth-about-pakistan

    In his tweet Moeed refers to the Cabinet Mission Plan for setting up a loose Indian Federation which he alleges Congress rejected.

    I had already replied to this in my interview by Moeed, where I said that the Britishers were determined to partition India ( for reasons I explained ), and the Cabinet Mission was just a ploy

    The two main British agents in this nefarious scheme of partitioning India were Gandhi and Jinnah, as explained below

    A Tale of Two Rascals

    I submit that since India and Pakistan are really one nation, we are bound to reunite, however much time it takes, for unless we do so we will be wasting our precious resources in hostility with each other, and will remain condemned to massive poverty, unemployment, malnutrition, etc.

    https://indicanews.com/2023/03/09/justice-markandey-katju-indian-reunification-is-an-idea-whose-time-has-come/
    https://indicanews.com/2023/05/07/justice-markandey-katju-india-the-sleeping-giant-will-awake/
    https://indicanews.com/2023/01/24/indo-pak-reunification/
    https://indicanews.com/2023/05/01/justice-markandey-katju-why-an-asian-union-of-states-is-pure-fantasy/

    Our problems of massive poverty, unemployment, malnutrition, lack of healthcare and good education etc can only be solved by becoming a united highly industrialised country, and for that we require not a loose federation, but a highly centralised government consisting of patriotic, secular, modern minded leaders determined to rapidly industrialise and modernise the country and give our people decent lives. For that a high level of scientific central planning is required, which is not possible in a loose federation..

    Some Pakistanis say why should we unite with india when Muslims are being lynched and other atrocities committed on them ?

    My reply is that this situation will not last much longer. Presently no doubt there are forces which spread religious hatred and polarise society for political benefit. But people will one day see through this ploy and design, and then a powerful united people’s struggle will arise, led by modern minded, patriotic, secular leaders for creating a just social and political order, and for peacefully reuniting India, Pakistan and Bangladesh

  • Moeed Pirzada and Justice Katju

    Moeed Pirzada and Justice Katju


    I saw this video of the eminent Pakistani journalist Moeed Pirzada a few hours back on Youtube

    Moeed Pirzada


    Moeed and I share our common support of former Prime Minister Imran Khan.
    But in the video above I noticed a certain tone of despondency and low spirit in him, like a nervous nellie.


    (1) Moeed laboured on the issue of denial of the same electoral symbol to PTI which it presently has, saying that it would mislead the public, resulting in significant loss of votes to PTI.
    In this Moeed is totally wrong. The people of Pakistan, 80-90% of whom are solid supporters of Imran Khan ( as all opinion polls indicate ), are no fools, and in recent months their political awareness has increased exponentially. Within 24 hours of announcement of a new symbol everyone in Pakistan will know of it, and no one will be befooled.


    (2) Moeed believes the delimitation of constituencies will be done in such a way ( by gerrymandering ) that it will cause significant losses to PTI in the elections.
    Again, Moeed is totally mistaken.
    All opinion polls indicate that 80-90% Pakistanis solidly support Imran Khan, as he is perceived to be honest, while the PDM leaders are regarded as highly corrupt ( as indeed established by the Panama Papers and other strong evidence ). This figure is increasing as time passes, since jailing Imran Khan has generated a wave of sympathy for him, and it will cross 90% shortly.
    So however much gerrymandering is done, the results will be the same, and delaying the elections will only benefit Imran Khan .


    (3) Moeed believes Imran Khan has faith, but lacks strategy or ‘tadbeer’.
    What tadbeer is Moeed talking about ? Imran Khan is bravely leading the democratic forces in Pakistan against the fascist reign of terror unleashed by the Pakistan Establishment ( i.e. the army and the PDM ), and he continues to do so even from inside jail. The spirit of the man is unbroken even when confined in a dingy dirty cell.

    What a man! – says Justice Katju


    Sooner or later parliamentary elections will be held in Pakistan, and then Imran Khan will again become Prime Minister, as I have explained in these articles and video

    U.S. Government’s attitude towards Imran Khan is bound to change

    The future of Imran Khan


    Moeed reminds me of the character Defarge in Charles Dickens’ famous novel ‘A Tale of Two Cities’.


    In an early part of the novel, a conversation takes place between Defarge, a wine seller, who is also secretly a member of a revolutionary society working for destruction of the feudal monarchy and aristocracy in France, and his wife Madame Defarge.


    Defarge is like Moeed, while Madame Defarge is like me.


    Defarge is despondent and dispirited because he thinks that the revolution for which he has been working for several years may not come about in his lifetime.


    To which Madame Defarge replied :
    ” What of that ? It will come. “
    Defarge says ” But when will it come ? How much time does lightning take to strike the ground ? “
    ” How much time does it take to build that lightning ? ” replied Madame Defarge. ” An earthquake strikes suddenly, causing massive death and destruction. But how much time does it take to build that earthquake ?


    You may not see the end. But you have contributed to it. Let that be your consolation, and be satisfied by it ”.


    Those who get despondent and think that Imran Khan is finished should see this video, where I have said ” Sach aur haq kabhi nahi khatm ho sakta ”.

  • My tryst with Journalist Moeed Pirzada

    My tryst with Journalist Moeed Pirzada


    By Justice Katju


    Moeed Pirzada is an eminent upright Pakistani journalist who has been in USA for quite some time. He is bravely carrying on a struggle against the fascist reign of terror unleashed in Pakistan by the Pakistan Establishment.


    He and I are both supporting Imran Khan who is bravely leading the democratic forces in Pakistan. Some time back he interviewed me about my article on the eminent Pakistani physicist Pervez Hoodbhoy given below


    https://indicanews.com/2023/06/13/justice-markandey-katju-on-dr-pervez-hoodbhoys-superficial-understanding/


    The video of the interview is given below


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmoDYaAIbNI&pp=ygUda2F0anUgbW9lZWQgZGl2aXNpb24gb2YgaW5kaWE%3D


    In this interview I said things which Moeed, and others, would never have heard before, and which may have shocked them.


    This article is to elaborate on my central thesis in the interview viz that developed nations will oppose tooth and nail the rapid industrialisation of India ( in which I include Pakistan and Bangladesh for we are really one country only temporarily and artificially divided by a British swindle in 1947 ), because if we become a modern highly industrialised country, like China, with our cheap labour we will undersell the industries of the developed countries, causing them to collapse as they will not be able to face our competition, and millions will be thrown out of employment.


    https://indicanews.com/2023/05/14/justice-markandey-katju-a-response-to-dr-akbar-ahmed/


    On the other hand, our goal must be to rapidly industrialise and modernise India, for only then can we abolish the curse of massive poverty, unemployment, child malnutrition ( every second child in India is malnourished according to Global Hunger Index ), almost total lack of proper healthcare and good education for the masses, etc. which have plagued our country for centuries.
    Thus our interest directly conflicts with the interest of the developed countries, and so our goal can only be achieved by a mighty historical united people’s social and political revolution, which will be opposed tooth and nail by the developed countries ( as their aim is not to allow India to emerge as a modern industrial giant, like another China, for then with our cheap labour we will undersell their goods and make them uncompetitive ).


    Historical experience shows that every actual revolution is preceded by an ideological revolution, in which the weapons used are not swords, guns, or bombs but ideas. Thus, the great French Revolution of 1789 was preceded by decades of ideological struggle in France by great writers and thinkers like Voltaire, Rousseau, Diderot and the French Encyclopedists who waged a relentless struggle against the feudal system and religious bigotry in France. The same happened in England in the 17th century ( in the struggle between King and Parliament ).


    India is presently in the stage of the ideological revolution, that is, the pre-revolutionary period. Clarity of ideas is absolutely essential in this period, but unfortunately these are missing. Our so called ‘intellectuals’ are really superficial thinkers who have little understanding of realities. My aim is therefore to provide this, and I have tried to do it in brief in my interview with Moeed ( as well as in several articles ).


    As I explained in my interview, politics is concentrated economics, and so to understand what is going on in current history we must delve into economics.


    Cost of labour is a big chunk of the total cost of production, and so if the cost of labour is less, the cost of production is less, and one can sell his goods at a cheaper price and undersell his business rivals. The same happens at the national and international levels.


    To give an example, China had a revolution in 1949. Before that China was a very poor and backward country, with about 90% or more people being poor peasants. But after its revolution the Chinese leaders set up a massive industrial base, and that coupled with the cheap labour available in China enabled the Chinese to undersell the whole world in consumer goods ( and also some other goods ). If one goes to a Western supermarket he will find it packed with Chinese goods, because the Chinese can sell their goods at a significantly lower price than goods made by a Western manufacturer ( because Western labour is expensive ).


    Indian labour is even cheaper than Chinese labour. So if we set up a massive industrial base in India will the developed countries be able to face our competition ? No, they will collapse, throwing millions out of employment. Will they easily permit that ? No, they will oppose it tooth and nail. And how do they oppose it ? By making Indians fight each other in the name of religion, caste, race or language. This was the real reason for partitioning India in 1947 on the basis of the bogus two nation theory ( that Hindus and Muslims are two separate nations ).


    https://indicanews.com/2023/03/09/justice-markandey-katju-indian-reunification-is-an-idea-whose-time-has-come/


    https://www.nation.com.pk/02-Mar-2013/the-truth-about-pakistan


    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/pakistan-is-a-fake-country-markandey-katju/articleshow/18353631.cms


    I have explained all this in my articles given below


    https://indicanews.com/2023/02/22/the-puppeteer-and-the-puppets/


    https://indicanews.com/2023/05/07/justice-markandey-katju-india-the-sleeping-giant-will-awake/


    I may be having more interviews with Moeed shortly

  • Can India & Pakistan Unite again? Full Interview [ Click Here ]

    Can India & Pakistan Unite again? Full Interview [ Click Here ]

    Division of India & Pakistan was British conspiracy?

    Cause of Partition of India, and recent developments in the Indian subcontinent.

    Justice Markandey Katju’s interview by eminent Pakistani journalist Moeed Pirzada.